Welcome to the fifth...or sixth installment of my State of the Spurs series. I'm not good at counting, so I'm not sure what number I'm at, but five or six sounds right (I may be wrong, but I doubt it). Anyway, if you've read the title, and have this annoying feeling in the back of your head, like a song that just won't leave, it's likely because it immediately brought to mind this commercial.

And you know what? Chuck ain't wrong. In a recent podcast, I said the Spurs had to be, if not the favorite, one of the favorites to come out of the Western Conference this season. I'm sticking by that, with the qualifier that we play up to the defensive standards of LWM- specifically the first five or six games of the win streak. If we play the defense of the fourth quarter against Detroit and the second half against Toronto, we'll get eliminated in the first round. I don't know if it's fatigue (likely) or reincorporating Manu Ginobili into the lineup (also likely) or just playing a couple teams that happened to get hot (not buying it this time). But with the Los Angeles Clippers on the schedule next, our defense is in for a tough test. They have the fifth most efficient offense in the league. The Spurs currently have the 15th ranked defense, according to hoopdata's efficiency stats. Again, the defense is ranked low partially because we've played some of the toughest offenses in the league, but that was not the case the previous two games. Detroit is the 28th most efficient offense and Toronto is 27th.

Turrible. Just turrible.
via covers.openlibrary.org
The Rodeo Road Trip, thus far, has been filled with games against less than stellar opposition. Even with the lighter schedule recently, we've still played the fifth toughest schedule, and it's about to get tougher. Starting Saturday, we play four games in six nights against the sixth, eighth, and fourteenth best teams in the league according to John Hollinger's power rankings. Personally, I'd rate Denver higher than fourteenth, but I'm not one of his machines. Point is, if we still have the league's longest active win streak this time next week, it will be time for all the naysayers to jump on the Spurs bandwagon. In fact, I'd argue if we win three of the four, the number of doubts we should have about the Spurs should continue to shrink.
As promised, here's a quick run down of our best five man units, courtesy of 82games.com. Arranged by minutes played together:
| Parker-Leonard-Jefferson-Blair-Duncan | 182.9 | 0.98 | 0.97 | +5 | 9 | 8 | ||
| Parker-Neal-Jefferson-Blair-Duncan | 80.3 | 1.17 | 0.95 | +34 | 9 | 2 | ||
| Parker-Green-Jefferson-Bonner-Splitter | 48.8 | 1.05 | 0.87 | +20 | 7 | 5 | ||
| Parker-Ginobili-Jefferson-Blair-Duncan | 46.6 | 1.12 | 1.01 | +9 | 3 | 3 | ||
| Parker-Green-Jefferson-Blair-Duncan | 44.9 | 0.98 | 0.87 | +14 | 4 | 3 | ||
| Parker-Neal-Green-Bonner-Splitter | 36.6 | 1.40 | 1.07 | +22 | 6 | 4 | ||
| Neal-Green-Jefferson-Bonner-Splitter | 31.7 | 1.09 | 1.03 | +0 | 5 | 4 | ||
| Joseph-Neal-Green-Bonner-Splitter | 26.3 | 1.13 | 1.02 | +1 | 4 | 3 | ||
| Parker-Green-Leonard-Bonner-Duncan | 25.0 | 0.82 | 0.93 | -5 | 3 | 4 | ||
| Parker-Anderson-Jefferson-Blair-Duncan | 23.3 | 0.98 | 1.00 | -3 | 1 | 2 | ||
| Neal-Anderson-Green-Bonner-Splitter | 23.0 | 1.26 | 0.85 | +19 | 2 | 0 | ||
| Parker-Neal-Jefferson-Splitter-Duncan | 22.4 | 0.98 | 1.33 | -14 | 2 | 3 |
As you can see, our most effective lineup to date is Parker-Neal-Jefferson Blair-Duncan. The important numbers to note in this chart are the +/-, win%, and the off/def numbers. This caught me a little bit off guard. I expected the Splitter-Duncan lineup to fare better in the limutes they've played together. While they are better defensively, the Blair/Duncan frontcourt, when grouped with the same Parker-Neal-Jefferson backcourt, is significantly better offensively and has a better off/def differential.
I also expected to see Leonard involved in more of our most efficient lineups. He's done an excellent job in my eyes of covering other players' deficiencies. I think that Splitter/Bonner/Leonard lineups are especially interesting, because of how Leonard crashes the boards so Bonner isn't as heavily relied upon. Lineups like that, like most of the Spurs lineups this season, have lots of complementary pieces. It's one of the reasons I have confidence even though Bonner is averaging 20 minutes a game. Since we now have wings in Green and Leonard who rebound exceptionally well, and who play excellent help defense, and who block shots (Green is barely trailing Splitter in BPG), Bonner can stick to doing what he does best- shooting and hustling.
Next week: Depending on how these games go, I'll take a look at how reintegrating Manu is going, or I'll re-evaluate my optimism for the Spurs this season.
0 recs | 21 comments
Ooh, a table!
I love tables.
DrumsInTheDeep - February 17, 2012
:)
SpursfanSteve - February 17, 2012
The Tim-Tiago combo is surprisingly bad
Joe deLarios - February 17, 2012
I suspect that replacing either Neal or Jefferson with Manu would drastically improve that lineup…but it’s also important to note that there’s still been a relatively small sample size.
SpursfanSteve - February 17, 2012
I can see once good thing here: Bonner in the line-up fair pretty well!
It’s not +/- magic in my opinion anymore, the sample size is too big. I really think pairing him with Splitter is brilliant – No less!
The reasons are obvious, and actually work both ways, cause Tiago draws double-teams in the post and he is a good passer so he frees Red Rocket for threes, but it also works the other way cause Bonner with his reputation can’t be left alone allowing Tiago to work his post magic. They are just perfect together!
Defensively it’s not a huge issue either, unless we play the Lakers or Grizz, there is no another 2-big tandem in the entire league that Bonner can’t do a decent job on the lesser of the two. Consequently ALL of Bonner’s lineups have a terrific defensive rating![I also think that he is very under-rated defensively, he is very smart and he is fully aware of his disadvantages so he really tries hard]
ironm8 - February 17, 2012
I think that if Joseph-Neal-Green-Bonner-Splitter have a positive rating then anything is possible.
ironm8 - February 17, 2012
that’s because the individual players in that lineup have super high +/-. Bonner, Green and Splitter. They pull up Joseph and Neal.
grego21 - February 19, 2012
Leonard/Bonner/Splitter lineups are becoming my favorites.
SpursfanSteve - February 17, 2012
Yup, good things happens when they are together in the court
spursfan87 - February 17, 2012
I want to see more Duncan-Tiago because in the playoff If we are going to make a run eventually we are going to face with a big team like the Lakers, Grizz, or even Minnesota (I dont want the Wolves to make the playoff, i have a bad feeling about them). I think the reason they are bad together is because of the lack of chemistry between them, this is probably where the lack of training camp has hurt us the most.
spursfan87 - February 17, 2012
no one can beat the Ivory Towers
TDzilla! - February 17, 2012
It almost seems like when Manu’s in everyone loses their defensive integrity, like hey he’s reachin in and leaving his guy to try to make a steal why cant I.
bigtee34 - February 17, 2012
As good as his defense his, I suspect Kawaii’s win% takes a hit from generally being on the floor at the same time as the other team’s top offensive weapon.
ChapRL - February 17, 2012
I am digging our second best squad:
Parker-Neal-Green-Bonner-Splitter
Can we get another chart posted after some games with Manu? Thank you sir
RobertHorryRobertHorry - February 17, 2012
Was already thinking about that :)
SpursfanSteve - February 17, 2012
Someone, i believe alamo suggested trade for Ilyasova, now hes starting and scored 23 lastnight. I know its only one game, but im sure Pop could do a lot more with this kid than Scott Skiles.
Spurs Yoda - February 17, 2012 via mobile
I think it was Edg5 that brought up Ilyasova and I suggested Blair and Anderson as a combination that might work to get him.
Alamo - February 17, 2012
Perhaps the most effective four man unit is Tiago, Bonner, Green and Neal. They’re included here particularly in lineups 6 and 11 in terms of minutes played together. It would help if Pop might increase the sample size for unit 11, the one that nearly beat Dallas in coming from behind. Visiting the 82games site, a second table gives more details. Unit 6 has one of the best eFG’s at .594 while giving up an eFGA of only .381, while unit 11 has a decent .500 eFG and an even lower eFGA of .325. Using the NBA’s stats for 4 man units, while the starting 4 of Blair, Duncan, Parker and Jefferson have the most minutes with 391 together and a +59; the Tiago, Bonner, Green and Neal combo have a +48 in only 135 minutes together.
Alamo - February 17, 2012
Blair’s appearance in so many of the “top” units is merely a function of having played so many minutes together with Tony, Tim & RJ in various starting lineups along with various starting shooting guards. None of the units that mention here were not a starting lineup. None of the lineups with Blair have much of a point differential between the off and def numbers, with the #1 unit having a .98 to .97. That unit also has a .465 eFG to a .453 eFGA. Three of the units with Blair (including the two with the most minutes) have an eFGA of over .45, one with Manu drops to .427 and the final one with Green drops to .403 (though it’s own eFG is a mere .386).
Alamo - February 17, 2012
I think that we finally have found a couple of front court players that make Bonner valuable. Last season, Bonner only barely worked with Tim. Now we can play Tiago instead, and Kawhi also adds a lot of more value to what Bonner does.
We can post up Tiago or Tim, while Bonner opens space by standing in the 3 point line and Kawhi cuts to the rim and crashes the offensive board. Defensively, Leonard and Tiago/Tim can cover for all of Bonner deficiencies.
I love this team.
Chilai - February 18, 2012
As much as Bonner isn’t a defensive player, I do have to say he has improved his defense this year. Never going to be a defensive player, but his help defense has been good this year. This is his best overall season.
grego21 - February 19, 2012
You must Login with your SB Nation account and be a member of Pounding The Rock to post a comment.