Pounding The Rock

Its turrble

It’s awrful.

It’s disgusting.

TrooperJoe73 - January 27, 2012 reply

it’s repulsive…

Looks like the offense fell apart there in the 4th

Big50 - January 27, 2012 reply

It was pretty damn shaky in quarters 2 and 3.

sleep research facility - January 27, 2012 reply

boo-urns!

I was saying boo-urns…

We need moar Splitter, and Manu in a jersey. That is all.

Also got nothing from Blair, or Green, or Leonard.

Sometimes I wish Sean Elliott would tell Pop some of the ideas he has during half time. Why aren’t they posted Leonard up when he has smaller dudes on his back? I mean Ridonur actually got away with checking this guy most of the first half and he only touched the ball like twice?!?!!?? Then at the end of the game when Tiago had been drawing fouls and playing great they didn’t really run the ball through him more. WTF??!!

I dont like to face reality but my hero is to old, he should have McDyess minutes.

day_late_friend - January 27, 2012 reply

:(

I would train my first win for a Spurs win

train=trade

yeah, 11 more from me would just be salt in the wound…

You couldnt keep up

twss

“hurts2bme”

Why do I bother with TWolves games? I should know better by now.

You’re either an optimist or you hate yourself

Or an idiot.

they are our Memphis Grizzlies this season

ummm. I said:

Crying for Spurs or for your 2d place finish?

both…

Not a good game by Leonard, Terrible game by blair, not a good game by Joseph

Tony and Splots played well. That’s about it.

Not a good game by Leonard, Terrible game by blair, not a good ~~game~~ year by Joseph

wildcat110 - January 27, 2012 reply

I don’t expect much from Joseph yet. He is supposed to be in Austin right now, with T.J. Ford running the show off the bench.

I’m not expecting Yoseph to play like a rookie Tony Parker, but I just hated the pick (at least as a first rounder) and based on his play this season, I do not see how he could ever even be a serviceable back-up. I thought Hill and Udrih at this point in their pro careers were much better—although they were older as rookies.

wildcat110 - January 28, 2012 reply

Spurs Lose!

Pekovic punched Timmy in the nose, ate his lunch and stole his Magic cards.

Don’t forget the wedgie

I dont want to hear it

That dude had 6 or 7 offensive boards!! They kicked our ass on the boards

need some help in the front court

We all knew that from the jump. If Tiago would’ve gotten the ball more towards the end of the game it would’ve been even closer than it was

need some help in the front court

This isn’t going to change anytime soon and is only going to become glaring in the Playoffs. I’m not saying that signing someone like Fesenko would change that, but it would at least help. Spurs still have 3 mil to spend and hopefully someone decent becomes available down the line via a buyout. Blair/Duncan/Splitter/Bonner/Thomas frontcourt will not cut it.

wildcat110 - January 27, 2012 reply

Pek is a beast. Last season he was having trouble adjusting to the NBA game (on 3-second violations and fouling), but he’s made huge strides this season.

At the very least, he’ll tire a dude out trying to deal with 6’10" and 290.

Cynical Jason - January 27, 2012 reply

Yeah he is a solid dude

wow did my gif really get deleted?

still on my screen…

i refreshed n it dissappeared

what, did you call someone a duck or something?…

yup

sad

agree, it was funny

never refresh!

didnt want to but chrome froze on me

Well that sucked

4TimeChamps...and counting? - January 27, 2012 reply

I saw way too many dunks by the T-wolves. Pekovic played us like he was Olajuwon. That cannot happen. We need defensive help now.

-16 for Splitter

+3 for Blair

I dont know how

Because that stat is overrated as hell

Spurs need to wake up this is not 2003 anymore Duncan needs to get less touches ont he low block and give more to splitter

Manu-20 - January 27, 2012 reply

Pop will come around, eventually. The writing is on the wall. Later on in the season, we will be seeing deadly Manu/Splitt pick and rolls destroy the competition.

Thanks you very much. I mean it’s one thing if Timmy has it going or it is a little guy checking him but ride the hot hand and Tiago has been playing great

You have to remember with Manu out Timmy is our second option. Yes Tiago has been playing well but he hasn’t had enough good games on the block for Pop to trust him there. That might change after this game however.

If the guy is hot and the other team is having a hard time checking the player feed him. Unless he is a turnover machine. I mean they didn’t even double Timmy because they knew he was off

No one doubles Timmy anymore. I agree that Tiago should be fed more, but off the pick and roll. I just don’t know if he’s that good of a post up player yet to be force fed.

I agree Tiago isn’t super duper unstoppable in the post but he had it going and they couldn’t figure out how to guard him. they doubled him more than they did Timmy. Not to mention the refs will bail out players with favorable foul calls when they have it going more than guys who don’t.

Like I said, Pop might look into it more after this game.

LOL

Yeah after 3 straight games of Tiago ballin maybe Pop will realize hey this guy can play a little bit. LOL

SanAntonioGiant - January 27, 2012 reply

C’mon Utah!!!

Blair dont even try to score and thats his “improvement” this season

sleep research facility - January 27, 2012 reply

timmeh is going to have games where he has it going. and he’s going to have games where he, frankly, sucks. we need to recognise which games are which early on, and not force things to him, and go to splots instead.

unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme nor reason as to which games duncan plays well in.

TD shot was off but he did have 4 BS, 4 AST and 10 Boards. He led the team in all three categories.

sleep research facility - January 27, 2012 reply

that just confirms what i said though – feed it to tiago on offense, let duncan contribute in other ways.

Preach brotha

I stated the same thing above. What makes me scratch my head is if we can figure this shit out why can’t the players and coaching staff?!? lol

Damn you RUUUUUUBBBBIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOO!

MikeyKosa - January 27, 2012 reply

Unfortunately it’s obvious that the Spurs are in that undesirable “mediocre” position where they are too good for the lottery but not good enough for a chip. Sorry guys….don’t hate me.

No hate. Only truth.

MikeyKosa - January 27, 2012 reply

Nothing is obvious.

But we have no Manu (at least that’s what I keep telling myself).

Sorry Cap, I don’t think that’s all there is to it this time.

So true, unfortunately. That is why I always hope our team goes and gets younger guys instead of older good players. I mean I think we as fans and the front office needs to realize that we don’t need any more older guys joining the squad to so call push us over the hump. We need youth that can help us contend now and in the future for awhile not two or three years

With our group of young guys we are one young superstar away from being back to a playoff team.

We are already a damn playoff team though. LOL. I’m talking about doing real damage in the playoffs and being solid for more than just the next two seasons.

No I mean once we start officially rebuilding. I know we’re a playoff team. I was referring to the post-big 3 era.

Oh my bad. I don’t know though because Pop still has that choke collar on the rookies offensively. Sean Elliott pointed out a boat load of things the team could’ve done to get easier offensive attempts with the young guy Leonard. Its like they have no faith in the guy offensively. I’ve been shocked to see Green getting as many plays ran for him as he has.

The young guys eventually have to be some what trusted and set up to perform in there comfort zone. Leonard looks hella frustrated and disinterested a lot of times on the offensive end of the ball. I mean they pretty much play 4 on 5 when he is on the floor because they rarely look for him or take advantage of what he can do

I agree. I think when the big three are gone (or at least Timmy) Pop will just let the guys play. Right now he is playing it safe.

Yeah i guess he is.

I mean he did have faith in Green a few times driving to the hoop at the end of the game but his floater is garbage. Leonard actually has a better floater than Green but you wouldn’t know it because he doesn’t get much of a chance to show it off. LOL

We are also missing a player like Dice

jes

Eh, Im not ready to go there. Sure, it would take the perfect storm for the Spurs to win the title (see the 2011 Mavs), but I think they might yet figure it out.

Dirk was still in his prime

So we should give up on the team now?

not yet, this season is wide open, but we really need to make some moves to help the front court

Nope. Not give up. Sure they have a chance, technically, but I’m just saying our expectations shouldn’t be “championship or bust”. There are a lot of other positives we can take from this.

Amen. I mean if the team wins the championship or goes deep in the playoffs thats great but i’m not thinking we are only one veteran piece away from being a perennial power house again.

perfect storm

to win the championship:
-manu would have to perform very close to the first 5 games of the season. something around 22-24 pts a game, 5 assists 46%+ shooting
-tony would have to be able to his his long 2s, so defenders dont go underneath the screen
-tiago/tim would have to combine for about 30 pts on 50%+ shooting.
i remember a game, i think maybe the 07 championship run. halftime of a close game. barkley said that the spurs would win if tim duncan came out and got a few easy buckets to get the spurs going. to win the championship we need some post presence to give us a few easy points cause the points our guards do not get are not easy (and manu/parker dont get to the line often)
-IMPROVE D

forrestgump52 - January 27, 2012 reply

That someone is Manu, or it’s nobody. He is our best player, period, at this stage of things. If healthy, I think Manu is still capable of doing just that. But relying on Manu’s body to stay healthy is a risky proposition.

we need a time machine

hot tub style? MOTLEY LOU!

Spurs are inconsistent. I’m not going to get too high over them thumping Atlanta, or too low about tonight.

Consistency is one of the main components of a championship team

Last I checked, championships aren’t won in January. Too early for this kind of discussion.

You can’t expect these problems to just go away so easily. Especially with how short he season is.

I’m not trying to be a pollyanna and ignore problems. I’m just saying it’s too early to write the Spurs off. There isn’t a team in the West that is consistently good right now.

Well, the Thunder are pretty good.

And they are pretty consistent even now

Still, now is NOW. Spurs are integrating youth, without Manu, may make a trade… What we see now is not what we will see in May and June. I know it’s a short season, but there is a lot of it left.

Still a lot left for sure but we still have problems that Manu can’t fix

On nights when the offense is stagnant, Manu can mean a lot.

I was referring to the D

Well, they are missing TJ Ford and Manu. that changes the strengths for the team.

So very true. Those two guys have a ripple effect on the whole team.

We lose the battle of assist … thats a battle that we always win!!

Hornets 93- Orlando 65

They are not even trying to keep howard

Maybe he isn’t trying to keep them.

Man, that’s the second horrible offensive game Orlando has had in a week. What is going on?

They go how there 3 point shooters go. Let Howard score and cover the shooters or get him in foul trouble and they are toast

In other news … orlando suck!

We have atleast 8 guys that we can offer up for Howard

Like they would do that

trade everyone except tony, manu, kawhi, splitter, bonner and green

Wait a minuteeee……………..We gotta keep TD

I would have liked to include bonner but I’ve tried to trade him for 4 years and yet he’s still here. Like it or not I cant get rid of him

Id like to think we could trade timmy with him saying he’s going to retire then he comes back to us

you can let bonner go on the package to.

gotta keep Bonner to spread the floor

So they say. But I hate him every second he’s out there until he hits a shot.

lol

Can we get Ian back? for Blair?

its going to be painfully watching Ian out play Blair when we play Dal.

Wow that was an awful game

doubleteapot - January 27, 2012 reply

meh

No offensive flow

in the game. tony and somewhat splitter are the only guys that can get their on shot off and tony cant run the pick and roll well yet with splitter/blair to have be a consistent offense. mannnnnuuuuu

forrestgump52 - January 27, 2012 reply

Urg got a phone call right after halftime looks like it was a frustrating half and the refs did not help.

TX2NC - January 27, 2012 via Android app reply

So i kept glancing at the game but did not pay attention really

TX2NC - January 27, 2012 via Android app reply

Maybe we can put in a bid to move to the Eastern conference so we dont have to be a .500 team to make the playoffs

I can’t argue with alot of the statements above, but above all else..
GET RID OF PEANUT AND SAMMICH!
(and please get something for them)

throw Blair in with them

can’t argue with that either…

Would you settle for jelly and a burger?

Jelly burger?…

The opposite of Peanut and Sammich

nice…

Orlando sucks, they should trade everyone now. It’s a bunch of shooters and the best center in the league

doubleteapot - January 27, 2012 reply

These are the kinds of games you miss Manu the most. He would not have let it end like that. He would have drawn fouls, hit 3’s, and caused charges. Tony played well. Timmy struggled and Tiago stepped up big early

Ohio Spurs Fan - January 27, 2012 reply

we have lost three games in the 4QTR. This is where Manu win games

When Blair sucks hard
And the shooting is rather low
And their scoring is high
But our defense won’t grow
And we’re changing our ways
No longer pounding the rock

Love, Love will tear us apart. Again.

Hipuks - January 27, 2012 reply

this is no fish sir…

Beautiful

Wow, poetry.

Kondor - January 28, 2012 reply

Nice, Pukey. Its like some sort of disoriented haiku.

eastbaysd - January 29, 2012 reply

I miss when our guys were just consistent. like Oberto, Horry, Elliott, Rose, etc. etc. they wouldnt get you 28 and 15 but they would get solid numbers every night and fight hard always. Our guys seem to streaky nowadays

They were players with high BBIQ who knew their role, and the only thing that matter to them was the win, not the stats.

Agreed, Danny Green is going to be great, but he is young. Leonard is the same way but an offensive liability. Neal can shoot lights out but takes games off.

It’s frustrating to see Tony is the only consistent scorer night in and night out.

Ohio Spurs Fan - January 27, 2012 reply

I don’t think Leonard is an offensively liability at all. They are trying to fit a square peg in a round hole with this guy. Any scorer shoots better when they see the ball go into the hole early so why not draw up a play utilizing his length in the paint or little post game when he has a small guy checking him? Why doesn’t the inbound pass come his way when he beats his guy with a crisp cut? Why do we keep running the same damn pick and roll over and over with CuJo not knowing what the hell he doing or the pick not getting anybody open?

I might agree, when he’s not trying to create his own shot….

So you gather this intelligence of him not being able to create a shot by watching him try all of 10 times max in the first few games? LOL.

He sure looked solid against Atlanta driving to the hoop early in that 4th quarter before the game was a complete blow out. He looked nice earlier in the game off the lil pic from Tim where he almost dunked on Josh Smith also (that should’ve been a foul). LOL.

How the hell do we know what most of these young guys can do when they are forced to just set up shop on the outside and jack up 3’s? I would love to see some actual plays ran for him, Green hell even Neal

most of y’all are rippin’ on CuJo the same way… and almost, is not quite. I’m saying play to their strengths and let them grow in the system. right now, taking someone off the dribble does not appear to be his strength (and this ain’t SDSU)

You are right it isn’t SDSU but he did take pro’s when they played ATL

lol

lol

Did you watch that ATL game? He showed that he can slash to the hoop pretty solid but you would never know because he rarely gets a chance to show it.

We have to figure out ways to get others involved offensively without just dumping it down to the bigs or pick and rolls. I mean that is pretty much my gripe with the offense to be honest

I watch every game for the most part… I like his potential, he just has a lot of growing/learning to do… like I said, he needs to play to his strengths, and right now, that’s either stop and pop or posting up. Sean even called him out on not knowing when to have patience on the offensive end. I love this kid on D, just needs work on the offensive end. He looks too much like Bruce or Malik on O when he tries to take someone off the dribble right now.

Sean also said they should give Leonard the ball in the paint with scrawny ass Luke checking him tonight. Did he get the ball? Hell no he didn’t! LOL.

The one thing I like about Sean is he is a straight shooter and he pointed out how well Leonard was getting to the hoop against ATL when he was beating people off the dribble. For a person that watches a lot of games it seems to me you sure do miss the instances I’m pointing out. He said in that game that Leonard shouldn’t have forced one shot in the post against early in the game because he could’ve thrown it out and reposted. You know why he forced the shot? Because he knew he wouldn’t get the ball back.

It’s simple to see the frustration on the new guys faces when they get to our team. I see it in Leonard, Anderson and R.J.‘s face the last couple of years. Sean even joked about what R.J. told Leonard in the off season about working on his handle and shit. R.J. told Leonard to not even work on that shit because he would never use it and to get used to sitting in the corners jacking up 3’s. LOL. So far they haven’t really tried to take advantage of what he can do and they have him out there doing what R.J. said and thats jacking up long jumpers and 3’s. He has been getting points from slashing and hoping to get a pass or offensive rebounding

That shit is sad in my opinion that instead of maybe tweaking your system or style to utilize the talent efficiently they just change a player totally.

Sean also said they should give Leonard the ball in the paint with scrawny ass Luke checking him tonight. Did he get the ball? Hell no he didn’t! LOL.

that’s what i’m talking about, he vacated prematurely (and yes, TWSS)… IMHO, when he makes those shots, it seems like lemonade. and don’t get me wrong, I’d rater be lucky than good any day. I just want this team to improve, and KaWhy’s on the team. (what’s up with all the lol’s btw? are you actually lol’ing Blair stlye?)

It wasn’t his fault that he didn’t get the ball though. He is a rookie and unless Pop says give him the ball down there they aren’t going to run plays for him to get it in the post.

Did you see Tony, Green, Neal, or CuJo telling him to post Luke up down there? No. Did you see any of the Spurs getting on Leonard for moving away when he was motioned to do so, so we could see the millionth pick and roll? No, you didn’t. The team isn’t looking for him on the block and the offense isn’t designed for him to get the ball on the block.

The sad thing about the offense and this game in general is if they would’ve posted him up maybe it would have been a win or at least more fluid.

Luke played 33 minutes while Rubio played 42. That means they went with the small back court line up for a nice chunk of the game and we did nothing to take advantage of it.

As far as your lemonade theory goes I think it is rather sad that you have no faith in a guy who has an obvious mismatch making shots under or close to the rim as being luck. The guy actually finishes decent at the rim and with him posting Luke up the defense would have to pay attention because he would be able to get a shot at will on him. once they double he could have gotten open shots for the jump shooters and if they didn’t double him then he could at the very least draw fouls getting the team in the penalty.

and with him posting Luke up the defense would have to pay attention because he would be able to get a shot at will on him. once they double he could have gotten open shots for the jump shooters and if they didn’t double him then he could at the very least draw fouls getting the team in the penalty.

an interesting theory sir… I’m not trying to pick a fight btw…

So you don’t think a guy 6’7" 225 pounds can back a 6’2" 175 pound man under the rim?

I mean you don’t even have to know, play or watch basketball to make some what of an educated guess on this question I just asked?

My theory is common sense at work. The very least that would have happened like I stated is Luke would’ve been fouling to stop him and they would have had to try a different line up instead of the one they used for a decent portion of the game.

You can think I’m crazy but if you can not see the common sense in this statement I posted here then I don’t have much else to say to you on this subject. LOL

you’re not reading me right… I agree, I don’t think KaWhy was patient enough… it was a horrible mismatch in our favor, we just weren’t able to take advantage…

That’s because the point guards or Pop didn’t emphasize giving him or whoever Luke was checking the ball.

That isn’t his fault at all. He is just a rookie who looks hella pissed that he doesn’t touch the ball in his comfort zone accept when gets a steal or offensive rebound.

I mean the one time tonight when he tried to drive he got stripped/ fouled by Luke and Pop benched him right after that. LOL. They are trying to make him something he isn’t, instead of maximizing what the hell he is.

Atlanta game = home game
Minnesota game = road game

Home or away

6’7" 225 pounds will be able to back down 6’2" 175 pounds all day everyday.

At least let him prove to be unable to make a play instead of just ignoring an obvious mismatch. LOL

The young guys need their blankies

To go along with that, I thought there was a stretch in the second half tonight where we would just feed the post, let him pound the ball for a while while everybody else stood and watched, and then take a forced, guarded shot in the high paint. It was like we were bogged down in mud on the offensive end—very little ball movement, passing, or player movement.

Thats what i mean 100%. We don’t run a boat load of plays in the first place offensively and I understand a strike shortened season makes it even harder to teach the young guys but ball movement and attacking mismatches is basketball 101.

Get others involved offensively, give the young guys chances to make plays in there comfort zone to get them warmed up. We knew the guy wasn’t the best jump shooter and I’m sure the front office did also when they drafted him. But he finishes solid at the rim in school and had a little post game also. Why not utilize that shit, especially when you got a lil dude guarding him?! That’s a high % field goal attempt waiting to happen

don’t get it twisted I understand that it is easier said than done to install plays because they don’t have a lot of time to teach everything to the young dudes. But how hard is it to tell the point guard to get Leonard in the post against a dude giving up 4 inches and 30 pounds to him? lol.

I guess Pop just doesn’t have faith in the guy down there

i agree with your point, but KaWhy needs to learn that too, he bailed early on in that play(s)… he needs to set up shop and put himself in position to take advantage of that mismatch…

So he sets up shop and ask for the ball so they can tell him to move out of the way so they can run the 20th pick and roll in that same offensive possession? LOL.

They not giving that kid the ball at all unless they doubled or he wide the hell open. He was wide open early in the game on an inbounds play and they didn’t even look his way. On fast breaks they are afraid to give the guy the ball unless he is under the rim. LOL. I just want to see myself why they seem afraid to give the guy the ball when he actually makes pretty decent decisions and passes solid

I don’t think he has as good a handle as you think he does…

I didn’t say his handle was Chris Paul like but he is decent enough to be given a consideration in the instances i mentioned above. He isn’t as bad as Bruce was handling the ball and he isn’t Manu. Shit I think he might be better than R.J. at getting his own basket

ha! shoot, sammich is better at getting his own shot than Peanut….
:)

that is because he is taller and the people checking him aren’t used to running down a guy all the way out there. It is way easier for a power forward to get beat off the dribble unless they are good athletes.

Not to mention the little guys who run out there to chase Bonner away from the 3 point area usually jump with more intent instead of just putting up there hand because he is so much taller than they are. So when they jump to contest his shot he has them at his mercy

I mean it is way easier for a power forward to get beat off the dribble in those instances when they have to run a guy away from the 3 point area

Depends who is on the floor with Leonard… When Manu is back a unit with Parker/Leonard/Duncan/Splitter can work…

Or you could go Manu/RJ/Leonard/Splits/Duncan. And so on…Or Manu/Green/Leonard/bigs

Neal can’t play D. So yeah..

Veterans vs. bunch of young guys… That said, those old vets would have issues with this season.

Pop Should bench Blair ….and start Tiago…..Even if the combo of bonner and blair kill our defense
Just to give Blair more motivation … I remember his rookie season, He even Dunk!!

it didnt work last season, Blair just got fatter

If he really wants to make Blair work harder for minutes, he should just start Bonner. Or play Malcolm some minutes.

I would not feel that bad if the wolves beat the lakers ..

it’s time to spin some vinyl!..

You have to wonder if the schedule is starting to take a tole on the team causing the off shooting days

Ohio Spurs Fan - January 27, 2012 reply

I don’t know. The only trend I see is that they utterly suck on the road. It’s like a different team.

This is what happens when you have a lot of key young players. They tend to perform well on the home court, but are a different player on the road.

true..
can
not
finish..

TWWS?

TWYS?

I deserved that.

ha!

Well, overall, NBA offenses are shooting worse

doubleteapot - January 27, 2012 reply

True that.

Well, a rotten game, for sure. I’m gonna go read a book with my son and forget all about it. ’Night everybody.

nice, good night… my daughter’s playing bones with the wife.

4TimeChamps...and counting? - January 27, 2012 reply

The refs tonight were terrible… if that big ugly guy on Minnesota set one more moving pick I think Pop was going to lose it!

TdotSpursfan - January 27, 2012 reply

Pek sets a lot of moving screens. But this was a rare night when they didn’t call him on it. Usually they call him but not the other players who are doing the same thing.

Cynical Jason - January 27, 2012 reply

New Orleans is apparently trying to trade Kaman. Any possibility we can grab him?

an injury prone 30 year old guy who can’t jump or run up and down the court with any speed. HELL NO. LOL.

maybe if he wasn’t getting paid what he is getting paid then that would be a good pick up but to be honest I hope we don’t try and get him on K. Martin.

4TimeChamps...and counting? - January 27, 2012 reply

i would take his length and defense over Blair’s lack of, thats for sure. Martin seems like a long shot.

not for how much he gets paid and what we would have to give up to get him. It isn’t even worth the ink in a ball point pin. I mean he isn’t a bad player but he is grossly overpaid and not the missing piece of any puzzle we have.

Would he be worth giving up a 1st round pick at this point in his career? I truly don’t know but I do know Stern is going to want more than that for him

The Knicks took 43 three pointers in the game against the Heat.

O_o

Hipuks - January 27, 2012 reply

D’Antonied!

GO HANNAH TEETER!!!!

I didnt see the game. WE SUCK

Chilai - January 27, 2012 reply

Minnesota played the Spurs close all of last year, and they’re a better team this year. Pop doesn’t seem to like to change his starting lineup based on a matchup problem, which the T’Wolves give the Spurs. It doesn’t seem this loss should be taken as being that surprising on the road. The Spurs’ road record to this point is based mainly upon playing good teams or tough matchups. Their road record will likely start looking much better as they play some Eastern teams besides Miami, Atlanta, Milwaukee and Orlando (losing to Miami and Milwaukee on the road). The Spurs should have both Manu and TJ back prior to the playoffs, and Pop might eventually decide he is better off playing more of Tiago.

Alamo - January 27, 2012 reply

Pop has already figured out to play Tiago more but now he needs to figure out how to tell the other guys to get him the ball when he is hot from the field

Tiago’s pretty f’n solid…

Tiago’s game isn’t the prettiest but it is hella effective. I like the dude a lot and I wish he would’ve came over when he was about 2 or 3 years younger so we could appreciate him for longer

agreed sir

This. A thousand times this.

Edg5 - January 27, 2012 reply

In the 6 games since the Miami game, Danny Green is 2-17 from 3 point range. He has made all 4 of his free throw attempts over those 4 games. After his first 6 games, Anderson was put deep into the bench after going 4-19 from 3 point range and going 9-12 on FT attempts. Green over 6 games – 32 pts, 22 rebs, 15 assists, 6 turnovers. Anderson his first 6 games – 41 points, 15 rebs.,, 9 assists, 8 turnovers. I guess that clearly makes Danny Green the better player?

Alamo - January 27, 2012 reply

LOL

Don’t bring up facts because people get mad when you do that man. LOL. I thought Anderson got the raw end of the deal also but i will say in Pop’s defense that Green is a better defender than Anderson and he seems to trust Green handling the ball more than any of the young guys.

That made me smile when you put up the stats though. I felt Anderson wasn’t even given a chance to get out of his shooting slump

I like danny green but I dont know maybe Danny Green is not that good …. maybe he is just another roger mason …O_O

I’m a Virginia native and UVA fan. Please don’t diss my guy Roger Mason please.

His defense is “better”

This is a valid question. Green did have that one big night, and several good ones, but his shot has been pretty cold of late.

Maybe it is a matter of defense, which does not show up in these numbers. Maybe it’s attitude. maybe, maybe, maybe…

Defense and Pop trust him more with handling the ball.

Tonight is a night I think we could have used someone like Anderson. The second half nobody is getting anything going on offense. A player who can dribble penetrate to the basket might have opened things up a bit. With Manu out, the only slasher we have is Parker.

This is the big difference between Neal (pure shooter) Green (Rip Halminton body) and james anderson (slasher)

cuentaluis1 - January 28, 2012 reply

LOL. You know whats funny is Anderson in school was looked at as more of a Shooter than slasher

gunnin' gervin - January 28, 2012 reply

If you make comparisons between neal, green and anderson .. he is the best slasher (I think)

cuentaluis1 - January 28, 2012 reply

lates peeps

In the 666 - January 28, 2012 reply

Game doesn’t matter. Chuck series finale happened tonight. I cried…

Apparently Hornets are shopping Kaman, and Spurs are interested. What would we be willing to give up for him?

quincyscott - January 28, 2012 reply

I would trade any non-rotation player for him and a second draft pick.
I like Kaman, even if he is so damn inconsistent, but I dont know if he is a good fit for the spurs. Average defense (definetly a lot worse than Tiago and TIM, but better than Bonner and Blair), excellent rebounder and a really good scorer, a guy you can post up and get results. The problem is, he is an awful passer, so the ball is not coming back, and I dont think he can play alongside Tim and Tiago (our best bigs).

Chilai - January 28, 2012 reply

You’d be forced to start Tiago then..

i don’t know if this has been mentioned anywhere above but the hornets want kaman out of new orleans and monty williams is going to give him DNPs til he gets traded. a 7 ft guy with a well polished post game wouldn’t do no harm right? i mean he’s never been known as a defensive force but i was looking at his stats from 2010 (didn’t bother with 2011 cause he was injured plus griffin stole the show) and i was amazed with his stats. look at the last 6 games from 2010
vs NYK 22 pts 16 reb 2 blks
vs POR 14 pts 8 reb
@SAC 23 pts 6 reb
vs GSW 27 pts 10 reb 1 blk
vs DAL 17 pts 7 reb 2 blks
vs LAL 22 pts 7 reb 5 blks
he hasn’t been able to get a chance to play a game with quality minutes since then…he’s about to be 30 yrs old too. i don’t know how the salaries match up but would anyone consider something like blair and anderson with a draft pick for kaman? or something along those lines. anderson is as good as gone and blair has been really inconsistent. i don’t know, i just know that there needs to be change.

Starscream210 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

quincyscott beat me to it

Starscream210 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Oh hell, you did research and everything. I was just speculating blindly.

quincyscott - January 28, 2012 reply

I wonder if the Spurs would be dangling Neal rather than Anderson.

quincyscott - January 28, 2012 reply

Neal has value. Anderson, at the moment, not so much.

Hoopshype: Very big and very active… Has above average athleticism and agility for his size… Runs the floor well… Skilled offensive player… Can score with both hands… Makes no mistake from the free-throw line… Has become a great rebounder… Low basketball IQ.

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cuentaluis1 - January 28, 2012 reply

Salaries don’t match. That’s the only negative side of not having bad contracts: you can’t pull off trades for guys that make a lot of money.

Edg5 - January 28, 2012 reply

If only, Dyess’ contract still existed…

does bonner have a bad contract? i think spurs signed him to a 4 yr deal worth 16 million (ugh)

Starscream210 - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Nope. It’s very good for being included in a trade. Dyess + Bonner’s contract would have netted about 9M, and with Dyess coming off, Bonner’s contract is easy to sit on, if you are moving a big/long contract.

Kaman trade is not going to happen. Jefferson/Bonner combo is pretty much the only thing that would work and Stern is not going to allow them to take on RJ’s contract.

wildcat110 - January 28, 2012 reply

Yep, don’t forget about Stern.

quincyscott - January 28, 2012 via mobile reply

Even if it wasn’t stern, that deal would make no sense. With Dyess, that’s another story since it is shedding salary.