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Did Anderson play?

Yeah he played bench warmer. did a great job warming those benches

I want to see Anderson play. We need someone who is aggressive enough to make those pick-and-roll plays.

Who’s Anderson?

Pop didn’t go deep with the bench, but stayed with a unit that provided the most energy.

That’s a game where we miss Manu.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence we lose when there is a Korean comic, and win when there is no Korean comic

How can something so beautiful end up like that?

THIS WAS HORRIBLE

First game after I join, and the team loses… I think me joining wasn’t such a good idea.

Don’t worry bro, it was the Korean comics.

Damn those things.

Sigh, at least we should wait for the Chinese New Year to see if it would still curse us.

yep.

Hey Tim. POLLOS has already offered you Manu.

1st home loss after 1st road win.

have you ever watched any of Donald Glover’s stand up? Holy crap…

I’ve seen some of his clips in Youtube.

Is he Danny Glover’s son?

I think his twitter handle is DonGlover… which is just plain awesome

Fuck this, I’m gonna go walk my dog. See ya later crocodiles.

Crocodile tears?

we shot awful

Yep. That was a big problem.

It was a trap

We fell right into it.

What’s gunnin’ gervin’s average number of comments per game?

Whatever it is, it’s because he attempts a lot of comments. He’s not very efficient though.

Toros game is currently on, available on futurecast. Near the end of the game, they’re up by 28 points. Can’t find a boxscore at this point. Noticed that Da’Sean Butler scored 21 points in last Wednesday’s game.

Butler: 18 pts 7 rebs, 4 assists. The kid’s alright.

Best place for him. Too bad CJ couldn’t hang out in Austin.

man that was ugly

I missed the game again, what the hell happened? I was expecting their guards to struggle against Leonard and Green’s defense… Didn’t seem to happen.

Also, I’m getting alarmed at Parker’s minutes. All the starters except him have ~20 minutes, Parker had 40.

Leonard is going through a little bit of struggles. Expected…

Parker was their best consistent offense. Joseph can only play minutes in small bunches.

Methinks the Spurs won’t be picking up James Anderson’s option. Which is a shame. I have no recollection of any game happening tonight.

At least our team will be rested for tomorrow.

Hmm…a trade for Anderson, maybe?

They won’t get much for a guy they don’t play.

Perhaps. I don’t know. Pop rode Green and RJ a lot with Neal as the other guy and a little bit of CJ. Leonard has seen not as much time this game either. Pop seemed to just stay with one group, which worked, for the most part.

I think it’s too soon to give up on JA, unless there is something behind the scenes.

WTH! Was Anderson that surprise of camp because of how much he sucked?

I’m sure this schedule/lack of practice has more to do with it than anything.

Fearing tomorrow night. Trying to keep the faith.

The Cavaliers prepared for the game as if Rose would play. His name was the first listed on the dry-erase board in Cleveland’s locker room with the word “aggressive” scribbled next to it.

But when word came from down the hallway before tipoff that Rose would sit, Scott let out a sigh of relief.

“My prayers were answered,” he cracked.

Not all of them.

That bit of information epitomizes everything that’s wrong with the personnel and philosophy of these Cavs. The road back to respectability for Cleveland is not going to go through Byron Scott.

Scott is a tad overrated. he definitely was in NJ.

Georgie stripped Ellis and got the and one with 1.8 seconds. 9/14 points in the 4th quarter. Very clutch, although he got away with the kick deflection. Good for him though. Indy is likely going to win this.

while it possibly could’ve been a violation for the kick, it would’ve hit hill’s foot even if he hadn’t moved it. sloppy ball handling by monta.

It’s tough seeing Indy fans calling him Oooeeey Poooeeeeyy

Georgeous killed the Dubs… LOL

Mo Williams has been told to hit the showers.

Del Negro is an awful coach

If Sterling weren’t the owner, Clippers wouldn’t have cheaped out on the coach. Maybe he can convince Larry Brown to come to LA.

Blake Griffin is an awful ft shooter.

And defender and bad at boxing out. But still a great amount of potential there.

Minnesota really has no business being in this game. Del Negro couldn’t coach a Pee Wee team

Yea he really is not very good. I will say, though, this is the most talented team he’s had. His two Chicago teams stunk compared to these Clips. He might guide them to …. FIFTY wins??

Or whatever the equivalent to 50 ins in a lockout is…

He had Rose, Noah and Deng

41 wins, both seasons.

Rose grew a lot last year, though. Not trying to defend Vinny though.

Vinny really lost me when the Bulls blew that 35 point lead. You really have to be an awful coach to blow a 35 point lead.

Or even a 17 point lead. Yea, that was mean.

Well Chicago wanted him out badly. They just did a bad job of doing it.

Random, but I found it funny seeing one or two of the Clipper cheerleaders reacting to the out of bounce call with Rubio. random…

Rubio looks like a caveman.

I like the look.

I wonder if he shaves every morning.

Maybe just trims?

Griffin cannot post up, only face up

If he could, my god, he’d be dangerous.

Darko is beasting!

Even though the Spurs game ended suckily, the GS-Indy game was good and this Clipps-Twolves game has been good.

Twolves have had their chances, but keep blowing them. Sorta like the Spurs…

Man, Rubio reminds me of Manu in the way he moves.

Rubio for the tie!!! Wootness! Solid play. 9 points after going 0-10 in the game. Very Manuesque this 4th quarter.

Celebrated too much to be like Manu, a fist pump would’ve sufficed.

I said like. Not is. There is only one Manu.

I said like too! hehe, of course there is only one Manu.

I always loved the way Rubio played, since his days out of the NBA radar.

Great D by Rubio on Billups.

Ball to KLove?

Oh I called it. Yes!!!! UCLA pride!!

You’re from UCLA?

Sadly, I graduated the summer before Love played. Got to cover the NCAA Final Four and saw Oden’s final game..

I’m from UCLA too! But UCLA basketball sucks right now LOL. Our center is a fatass and we are playing two forwards who couldn’t defend a chair.

All their good players keep leaving. :(

I knew Westbrook would be good when he got to the NBA. Presti = smart man. I also thought Afflalo would be decent and Collison. Too bad Josh Shipp was too streaky. Oh and there’s of course Luc. F-man, we had some talent. Too bad Love wasn’t one year earlier.

I have to say, I don’t like Howland’s system. I get the whole defense thing, but the games are so UGLY. We basically play bad teams even because we can’t score before pulling away in the second half.

Of course, this year we can’t even defend and suck in general.

As a side note, I find Bruins Nation really annoying.

Yeah, Howland’s system needs to adapt the offense to make themselves more dynamic.

I photographed for UCLA Daily Bruin BTW. :)

Yeah I read a couple articles… then stopped. The writers aren’t that good. Yes I realize they are students.

Well, Daily Bruin was good. I never really read Bruin Nation.

We won awards in my time.

Damn then the standards really have dropped, huh.

Sports section is good though. I’d prefer if there was a little more criticism of Howland, but whatever, they know who pays their bills.

it goes in waves though. Same with the photographers… Yeah, I left… :)

Haven’t updated in ages, but here are some of my UCLA photos on here…
http://www.sportsshooter.com/gregb

Nice photos

Thanks! Covering the NCAA tourney was the highlight of it. Although getting ot shoot the Lakers-Wiz game was pretty neat too.

Now all UCLA does is have first or second round exits. They might even not make it this year (again)

I do have to say, UCLA is winning though, just not in their main sport. Their volleyball, tennis, water polo. Pretty solid years for UCLA, despite the mess in other areas.

I know, but I really want basketball or football to do well. You can’t trash talk by saying that UCLA won women’s water polo or something.

But UCLA was first to 100 national championships and still leading the way! That to me striks consistency more than anything else.

I know and that’s great and all, but it really isn’t the same without a championship in basketball or at least a good football program.

UCLA Football has never really been solid. They had some moments where they were decent, but I don’t think that’s going to come back any time soon. I still think the basketball team has a better shot.

I feel so too. But I keep hearing how we get all these great football recruiting classes and then we get beat down 50-0 against USC.

The problem is, good players tend to go to USC since they have the reputation. So they tend to get better overall talent, even if UCLA picks up one or two good players…

Love is better than Griffin, this absolutely proves it.

Charles Barkley is a genius.

Yes that is obvious. The thing is….I think Love has already reached his ceiling (which is incredibly high, so no shame in that) while Griffin has a lot more potential. We will se who the best of the two is in 3 or 4 years, nevertheless both are great and unique

Exactly. That’s the thing. Love has the advantage of the realized skill set. Blake, if done right could surpass that.

I think defense is what will define who is the better of the two down the road. Kevin Love will never be a great defender, he doesnt have the speed, mobility or jumping ability. Griffin has a chance to be a great one, even if his wingspan is not that great.

And if Blake can develop a back to the basket type of game, he can make his teammates better by drawing the double teams.

He already has a very nice passing ability. I think next season with a summer to workout he could take a big step as a player.

Yes, he has the chance. The thing is he’s already a star so there might be pressure just to focus is game on being a highlight film jumper, taking the Amare route..

Griffin doesnt strike as an amare type. Not yet.
At least he knows how to pass.

and rebound

forgot about that. Amare is awful

Amare only knows one thing. Score…

The Knicks are repeating the same mistakes Isaiah did. Getting a bunch of scorers and players withouth thinking about chemistry.

from what I read, since the Walsh left (who Isiah helped push out), Isiah has been calling the shots from behind the scenes. he was a big part of the Melo deals from what I read, since he’s friends with dolan.

Walsh was a good GM in Indy (working with Bird), prior.

yeah, that doesnt surprise me. Even if they get Nash next season, they are average at best, no better than the Atlanta Hawks

Their D definitely will suck. Even though Nash was never good, he’s just getting worse over time.

Nash cant guard a PTR blogger at this point

and now, because of Melo, he’s not even doing that.

He’s definitely better than Amare even at this point. he can at least rebound, even though he doesn’t block out well.

he’s a franchise player. heck, I’d take Love over Amare each and every day.

Blake does seem to care. Question above all is does Sterling..? probably not.

Well only about the money he rakes in, less about the winning.

A’m’a’r’e got two rebounds the other day. TWO REBOUNDS. At his height, you almost have to try to be that bad at grabbing the effing ball.

Dude dont be that harsh, he has to use ALL his energy taking all the shots he can on the other end. He is the only good offensive player on that team.
AMARE SUCKS

NY is full of black holes. With Amare and Melo on the same team, I’m surprised the solar system doesn’t collapse. They are just as bad as dividing by zero.

I wasn’t being serious with that statement. Barkley was arguing with Kenny and Shaq about Love being better than Griffin right now on Thursday, and they settled on seeing the outcome of tonight’s game. That being said, I agree with everything you’ve said.

Yes, yes, yes !!!! He’s on my fantasy team!! So is Rubio. `

I have to say, that was a really nice playcall

Really nice. They had Williams curling off the triple screen (or whatever that was) and then had the other two players basically pin down DeAndre Jordan, which allowed Love to pop out to the three point line and nail that three. DeAndre had to stay back to protect against the lob, one of the defenders had to switch out onto Love.

that was Popesque

Rick is a good coach.

and delnegro isnt.

To be fair, I think coaches just like players have strengths and weakneses. For example, Mike Brown has always been an excellent defensive coach, but he sucks on the other side.
IN the case of DelNegro, I like the way he develops his players and how he sets clear roles for each of them. Sadly, his in-game coaching is as awful as it gets.

He’s a players coach. He’s similar to Mike Brown in that sense. Both are solid assistants, but not head coaches.

With Brown, if you let someone take over the offense, you might be able to get away with it.

It’s like PJ. Solid with the Spurs, but couldn’t handle a team by himself.

I remember when the cavs (with a very limited personel beyond Lebron) got an offensive assitant coach to take reins of the offense and suddenly the cavs became a juggernaut. I wonder why most Front Offices fail to see the obvious limitations of their coaches.

They need to take on more of the NFL coaching mindset. An offensive coordinator for example, would go a long way. Or a defensive one…for a lot of teams.

This is already happening in LA. Durring time outs Chuck Person draws up the defensive sets and another coach (not sure who) draws up the offensive plays more often than not. Pathetic.

Yup. If Clippers were owned by anyone but Sterling, there’d be a real coach there.

What a great ending to a nail biter. No way the Clippers should’ve lost that game..

One good shot deserves another. They beat Dallas on a late shot. now Twolves do the same to them!

Vinny. Del. Negro.

I’d give more credit to Twolves drawing up a great play though, more than Vinny.

Celtics have lost 6 of 7. They’re in trouble. One of their big 3 may be traded.

Ainge is willing to gut the team if he can get back talent. I don’t get how that will ever happen, but sure…

The problem is, the teams willing to get one of those hefty contracts are not going to offer much.
Man, how I love the PATFO. We still have a very competitive and young team surrounding our big three.

Blair for Garnett

Unfortunately, it would have to be like a Blair/Leonard type of talent set to get KG.

I would give Leonard to get KG

Maybe, but I don’t think the ROI is worth it at this point…

KG has been awfull this season. I dont know if I want him.

Compared to himself but I still think he’d be the second best big on the Spurs.

You make Tiago cry

If he cries, he cries.

Depending on the game, Tiago is the best Spurs big…

I was thinking the same thing but I was afraid of being banned

TD is my favorite player and why I became a Spurs fan, but time/age get in the way of all.

I know. Sorry Tiago. But Garnett finishes better, shoots better, has better weakside help. Tiago is probably only better at one-on-one defense at this point in his young career

Garnett is the only one that I want

TJ ford for Rondo

It would be amazing if Blair learned from Kevin Love on how to box out… I can dream..

Love should make an instructional video on how to rebound when he retires. He is 6’8, with an average wingspan and a not so incredible athleticism and he dominates the boards like Howard.

Pop should force him to watch that ESPN Sports Science segment with Love and the sumo wrestler where they show how he does it.

It’s all about angles, positioning and knowing how to transfer force. It’s also about tape studying and understanding where the rebound is likely to fall.

Barkley and Moses Malone did the same. So many of the great rebounders get their rebounds way below the rim

Blair has the bulk to do it. If only he didn’t think he could out jump/out reach the opposing players.

He thinks that?

His actions show that even if he doesn’t say it.

You forgot about Dennis Rodman. THe dude had the same height as Manu and averaged several seasons of +15 rebounds. What a beast. One of my favorite players ever.

He had hops, but he did use his body well. Great timing to make use of his abilities.

He was an athletic freak. He would get on a bike and ride for hours after games. His conditioning was just something else. I don’t think he fits that mold that I was thinking about, undersized and strictly positioning rebounding. He did get a ton from boxing out and position but I remember him flying from one side of the key to the other to snatch rebounds. Very much superior to the way Love, Wes, Barkley did it as far as strictly rebounding skill goes.

I agree with his conditioning, but he still was a monster rebounder even at an advanced age. He combined positioning, boxing out and outstanding atlheticism. He was VERY undersized.

Yeah I agree. He combined all those things. Love won’t ever have that conditioning. I can’t imagine it.

It would be amazing if Blair learned from The JV on how to box out… I can dream..

Sharapova still dating Sasha?

They engaged, no?

Kevin Love – does he stay with the Twolves? They’ll likely offer him a good contact.

Apparently Devin Harris is on the block, too.

I’m sure they won’t get much for him. Trash

He’s worth trading a late 2nd round draft pick for, at this point. he’s been horrible. one of the top 10 disappointments of the season.

Devin Harris seems to get worse and worse each passing season. I dont know what is happening with him.

You know a lot of guys seem to do that when they leave Dallas. Either their FO is great with timing or Dirk makes guys better.

He peaked so early. It was pretty much downhill, once he left the Mavs. i think he benefited from being on good teams. Slowly, his talent around him got more inexperienced, his weaknesses become more exposed.

That said, he’s also lost some of his speed.

And Brook Lopez is not going to be given and extension with NJ.

Well yeah, he sucks. He can’t rebound and doesn’t like contact.

Good. That guy is allergic to help defense.

Even though the Spurs lost, this video makes the day easier…

So adorable..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13oF6klLmq4

So guys, what the hell happened? I watched the end of this game to see the Spurs blow a six point lead with 3 minutes left. Kings didn’t run any offense at all on their last shots. All they did was dribble dribble dribble shoot, swish. Sigh

I didn’t see much starters in the last few plays either.

Yeah I heard Bill or Sean saying that Pop was riding the group that got them the lead.

That’s exactly it. The starters (outside of Parker) looked like crap.

Spurs missed a bunch of open shots. Kings made some shots. It was a really weird game. Spurs D held pretty well for the game. The offense was dreadful though. If a few more shots fall, Spurs win this.

Is it just me or has the offense looked like shit lately?? I think the Spurs are just tired. Past couple of games the Spurs havent shot well, or am I wrong?

I think that has something to do with it. This season is going to have those weird ups and downs.

There were several positive things in this sad game:
1) After playing entertaining basketball last season, the Spurs are back to their ugly playing ways
2) Tiago Splitter looked very good again. Tiago (14), RJ(12) and Bonner (+11) were 3 Spurs with positive +/-.
3) When Matt Bonner left the game the Spurs were up 6 (their biggest lead at 84-78). Unfortunately, it left just enough time for the Kings to take the game back.

They are back to ugly, but the defense has improved. The problem is if the offense gets this bad, even good defense won’t stop every shot. Hopefully they’ll mix more of the offense in. It’s tough with Parker as the only real play maker though.

When Neal came in, Spurs lost momentum, funny as it is. Bonner was actually doing pretty well. he had a stupid foul which was the one that took him out, but he helped rebound in there. Once they got smaller, with Neal, it became too small ball, much like last year.

It’s tough with Parker as the only real play maker though.

You’re absolutely right. While the offense is definitely expected to take a significant hit with our best player (The Manu) out, the reason why it’s been so unexpectedly putrid at times is because Ford is also out. Ford’s orchestration of the offense, even when Manu and Parker have both been on the bench was a pleasant surprise and perhaps even today overlooked. He simply kept the offense humming in a situation where a RoMaJu, Ooey Pooey, heck, even The JV would have us cringing. And while he will never be regarded as a defensive player, he has shown this season that he’s not afraid to get active and pesky on that end. This resulted in him often being a net positive for the team to say the least, and to be a guy to spell out TP for a few minutes to say the worst. Obviously if Manu were healthy we wouldn’t do to bad, but the fact that 2 of our 3 play makers are gone is really hurting our O.
In other news, Cory Joseph didn’t have too good a game tonight with a net plus/minus of -11 in around 6 minutes.
Sorry for the rant.

If you forget about gary neal last 3pt shot vs orlando …. he is shooting terrible

He is. I didn’t think he should come in for Bonner during the last stretch. I thought Bonner functioned fairly well.

Neal doesn’t have his legs. This is why Joseph gets some burn, but the team has issues without Parker. But then Spurs are running him into the ground if they can’t spell him from time to time.

They should feed the post with Splitter as much as possible to reduce some of Parker’s running around.

It does seem like they are focusing on Green to be the next pick and roll guy though..

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